ASF User Working Group Meeting
Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington, Seattle
Monday-Tuesday, October 8-9, 2001
Meeting Summary
ASF has been doing well in terms of delivering data to users.
ASF received praise from NOAA/NIC, from the JPL/RGPS team,
and from level-zero users. Processing of data for MAMM is
going well. The group felt that ASF is operating better now
than it has for several years.
There was much discussion about the future of ASF.
The current five-year contract ends in March 2003.
In the absence of U.S. participation in future SAR missions,
the ASF budget is expected to decline, with ASF becoming just
a data archive. NASA would continue to support ASF and
the needs of the data users through maintenance of the
archive and servicing of data requests. If ASF wants to
sustain a higher level of funding then it must find the
means to do so, for example through selling its services
to government or commercial interests.
The director of ASF resigned at the end of September,
at about the same time that a new deputy director was hired.
The search for a new director must be a top priority at ASF.
With a target date of March 2002 for the new director to
take over, the next meeting of the User Working Group (UWG)
should be in late spring or summer, 2002, in Fairbanks.
Top Priority Items
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ASF should concentrate on finding a permanent director.
Put out an announcement and job description as soon as possible.
While it may be appropriate to seek an interim director,
ASF should not spend too much time and energy on a
temporary solution.
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ASF should send a representative to the IICWG
(International Ice Charting Working Group) meeting
in Tromso on November 13-16. Participants at the meeting will
include both customers (e.g. NOAA/NIC) and suppliers
(EMMA and SARCOM) of SAR data.
NOAA/NIC plans to buy 8 to 10 thousand scenes / year
of RADARSAT-2 and ENVISAT ASAR imagery.
This is a chance for ASF
to learn about international arrangements for the purchase and sale
of SAR data, make contacts, and present its capabilities
for data reception and processing.
Contact: Cheryl Bertoia.
Other Recommendations and Notes
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Investigate business models that will position ASF to acquire
new SAR missions, including continued pursuit of the ALOS
data node for the Americas. Cheryl volunteered to help
with contacts at various ground stations.
Action:
Waleed will look into what ASF can do (legally) to pursue future missions.
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Investigate the operating model of NSIDC, in which scientists
are on the DAAC staff. This would help to promote the use of SAR
imagery and derived products, and forge a closer relationship between
the DAAC and the data users. Ted Scambos volunteered to provide
information and be a link to NSIDC.
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A-PRIME is the ASF PRocessing and Information Management Enhancement
project. A high-level Operational Concept document was circulated
before the meeting. The UWG recommends that data users be included
in the review process.
Action:
Waleed will find out from Bill Potter the timetable for technical
reviews of A-PRIME and who is participating.
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ASF should fix the image quality problems associated with
RADARSAT ScanSAR Wide B (SWB), including the AGC (automatic
gain control) problem. User contacts: Ron Kwok and Frank Monaldo.
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ASF should calibrate other RADARSAT beams, such as SNA, SNB,
SWA, and the wide beams.
Action:
Nettie will suggest the order in which beams should be calibrated.
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RADARSAT-1 acquired fine-beam SAR data of Greenland as part of the MAMM
background mission from September 2000 to January 2001 (six cycles).
Data from this Canadian Interferometric Mission (CIM) are archived
at the Tromso, Dera, Gatineau, and Prince Albert stations.
NASA has negotiated a deal with CSA to pay the transcription fees
and have the data shipped to ASF.
Question for ASF:
When will these data be available?
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Data Acquisition Requests (DARs) from NIC, NOAA, RGPS, and MAMM
enjoy success rates greater than 90%, while DARs from individual
investigators (ADRO-2, other AO, unsolicited) have success rates
from 68% to 87%.
Action:
ASF should investigate the reasons for this discrepancy.
For example: Do certain individuals tend to make requests
that are difficult to satisfy and therefore drive up the failure
rate for the category as a whole? Are failed requests
mainly due to conflicts with RSI? When a user's request fails
due to a conflict, the request that took priority may still
yield useful data for the user. Is this often the case?
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To follow up on the last point, it's possible that acquisitions
could be coordinated and conflicts reduced if DARs could be
posted on the web. However, this may run afoul of CSA and RSI
policy, and raises privacy questions. Some options might include:
using a password-protected site; posting the nominal acquisition
plan without indicating who requested what;
only posting DARs from users who have given permission.
Question for UWG:
Is this important enough for NASA/ASF to look into it?
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In spring 2001 the National Research Council (NRC) released a report
called "Enhancing NASA's Contribution to Polar Science", in which
several recommendations were made on improving the effectiveness
of DAACs.
Question for ASF:
What does ASF plan to do to address the issues and recommendations
in the NRC report?
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In connection with the NRC report, we talked about
posting selected browse images on the ASF web site
for educational purposes and to stimulate interest in SAR.
Under the terms of the international MOUs, what exactly
can be posted with unrestricted access?
Action:
Waleed will find out the guidelines at the ISC meeting.
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NASA participation in RADARSAT-2 is off the table because
it's a commercial endeavor. However, RADARSAT-3 is on the
horizon, with a possible launch in 2005 and a tandem mission
with RADARSAT-2. CSA is interested in NASA participation
in RADARSAT-3. We recommend that NASA pursue involvement
with RADARSAT-3, while the mission is still on the drawing board.
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NASA owns the McMurdo receiving station but NSF pays the
personnel to operate it, with RADARSAT-1 providing the
budget justification. When RADARSAT-1 goes away,
NSF will need a reason to continue paying those costs.
Future use of McMurdo need not be limited to SAR.
We recommend that NASA and NSF find a way to keep the
McMurdo station in operation.
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We talked about pursuing the use of the Svalbard receiving
station, because the arctic coverage is better than that of
the Tromso station. Ben "volunteered" to write up a paragraph
describing the advantages of Svalbard.
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ASF and NSIDC are working together on distribution of the
25-meter RAMP data, now available on DVD. Web pages are
being developed.
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Ben made a pitch for calibration and level-one production of
Seasat SAR images. The data could be useful in conjunction
with future L-band missions (e.g. PALSAR, ECHO). See also Ben's
Scientific Rationale for Seasat SAR Processing (1999).
The group agreed that the data could be valuable but did not
make a recommendation about devoting resources at this time.
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It was noted that some items on the ASF web site are out-of-date
and the site is in need of renovation. ASF is in the process of
hiring a new web developer. The position has been vacant for
some time.
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UWG membership currently stands at 18. Jon Ranson has indicated
his intention to step down, and one or two others are due for
retirement, so our active ranks are more like 15 or 16.
Ten members attended this meeting, four of whom are
new to the group. There was some discussion about whether the
group is too big, and whether it needs non-scientists (e.g. lawyers,
business managers) in order to provide appropriate guidance to ASF.
Harry believes that the size is fine, given that not everyone can
attend every meeting.
(Note that 12 PoDAG members attended their last meeting).
As for the composition, it's up to ASF and
NASA to decide whether the group should only consist of data users
(as it does now) or whether it should function more as a board of
directors with a broader range of knowledge.
Attendance
Waleed Abdalati NASA HQ wabdalat@hq.nasa.gov
Cheryl Bertoia NIC/NOAA cheryl.bertoia@noaa.gov
Jim Conner ASF jconner@asf.alaska.edu
Craig Dobson NASA HQ cdobson@hq.nasa.gov
Mark Fahnestock U Maryland mark@essic.umd.edu
Cathy Geiger U Delaware cgeiger@udel.edu
Ben Holt JPL ben.holt@jpl.nasa.gov
Verne Kaupp formerly ASF
Ron Kwok JPL ron.kwok@jpl.nasa.gov
Nettie LaBelle-Hamer ASF nettie@asf.alaska.edu
Carel Lane ASF clane@asf.alaska.edu
Larry Ledlow ASF lledlow@asf.alaska.edu
Jeff Lipscomb ASF jlipscom@asf.alaska.edu
Jamie Marschner ASF jmarschn@asf.alaska.edu
Frank Monaldo APL/JHU Frank_Monaldo@jhuapl.edu
Bill Pichel NOAA/NESDIS William.G.Pichel@noaa.gov
Ted Scambos NSIDC teds@icehouse.colorado.edu
Buck Sharpton GI/UAF buck.sharpton@gi.alaska.edu
Larry Smith UCLA lsmith@geog.ucla.edu
Roger Smith GI/UAF roger.smith@gi.alaska.edu
Harry Stern PSC/UW harry@apl.washington.edu
Harry
October 18, 2001